Utter madness

[rgrove]

Man gets life under fetal protection law

A 19 year old helped his girlfriend who was pregnant for four months misscarry by jumping up and down on her stomach to kill the child. She should have been able to feel him moving by that point. How can you possibly murder your child like this! We get excited every time our son moves and we can see it. I really can't comprehend any other attitude...

Yours In Christ,
Ron

[Soulfyre]

I was equally at a loss that the mother should be so devoid of love for her baby that she would have her boyfriend commit this heinous act. That the mother was not tried and convicted of conspiracy in the death of her child because of the overriding freedom of the mother to abort her fetus leaves me saddened. Justice was not done here...and until we are able as a nation to recognize that abortion is not simply a fail-safe to birth control, unrestriced by a balancing of the concerns of the unborn child with those of the mother, we will remain a nation of murderers, whose slaughter of the innocents makes King Herod seem like a piker. My hometown is where Dr. Tiller, the late-term-abortionist-for-any-reason lives and practices his foul profession. He has recently been noted on television as the abortionist who has agreed to late-term abortion of down's syndrome babies. God have mercy on us and give us hearts of flesh. Heavenly Father, wipe this mass delusion from the eyes of the people that they may see and bewail the deaths to which our nation has been complicit.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa...

Matthew (soulfyre)

[melinky]

I can understand being 19 and not wanting to be pregnant 100%, but as Ron was pointing out, by this point she should have been able to feel the baby move. The first time I felt my son move was when he became a reality to me. I hate that our society seems to have lost the ability to feel empathy and compassion for other living beings.

As for the late-term abortion of children with Down's Syndrome, I agree with Matthew, it is indeed a foul thing. I hate to admit it, but when I was pregnant with my son I was 37 and therefore at a slightly higher risk of having a Down's child. I had an amniocentisis (sp?) done to make sure there were no problems with the full intent of aborting if there were a problem. Shame on me for even allowing the thought to cross my mind. Later, when my son was in daycare, one of the children was a Down's child. Yes, he had health and learning issues, but he was such a loving and special child. Seeing this child made me realize how terrribly wrong my former thoughts had been. I know now, that my thoughts were incredibly, morally wrong. God never promised us perfect, problem-free children, nor has He ever given us permission to take the life of another.

Melinda

[rgrove]

I must admit, Melinda, that I rather naively had no idea how many people have the same thoughts you had during your pregnancy. It became clear to us during some of the consultations (my wife is 34, will be 35 when she gives birth so she has also been at much higher risk for these things) that this aborting children with problems such as downs syndrome is almost hoisted upon you. They make you speak to a geneticist and they go through all these different scenarios very early in the pregnancy. It almost forced us to be confronted with this idea of aborting a child with one of the laundry list of problems she spoke about. Such a thing never entered our minds as we have been long time steadfast opponents of abortion, but for many the idea of having a child with disabilities is almost too much and to be immediately confronted with this type of decision is nothing short of an open encouragement to do so in my opinion.

I have a feeling I don't want to know the statistics of people that choose abortion when they find out they'll have a child with a disability such as Down's syndrome. It would hurt too much. Yesterday afternoon I was sitting on the railing in the wonderful weather we were having after a truly gifted guest preacher visited the church. One of the deacons and I were discussing points of theology while watching many of the children play tag out on the grass. One of his five children has downs syndrome and he was out playing alongside the other children. It brought great joy to me to see how well accepted he is by all the other children. That's such a blessing about the children in our church I must say. I noted how well the kids were letting him play along with them even though he didn't understand what was going on. The Deacon said the children have learned to play and let him play along without really being a part of the game and it doesn't seem to phase them much. He has brought them many of the difficulties that having one in five children with a disability, but I can also see them light up about him. He shows such unconditional love that it's almost impossible to describe. He just smiles at you and give you a big hug almost regardless of whether he's seen you before. His mom was gathering up the children and found him around the corner on the far side of the building from where we were. As they came around she started running with him and he was running alongside her and they were both smiling with smiles so wide it really warmed my heart. She's a great mom.

Don't remember where I was going with that. Perhaps I just wanted to tell the story because it was all a great gift the Lord gave me yesterday to see.

Yours In Christ,
Ron