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Post by Alejandro on Mar 18, 2005 8:27:56 GMT -5
I am not sure about the age groups here, and where everyone lies in those groups. I just wanted some opinions on this:
Christian rock music. I have heard various things on the subject matter regarding secular rock music. But when the music is lyrically worshipful to God, and the mission of the band is to be a living sacrifice unto God and they play rock music; that cannot be seen as something wrong, can it? I have heard so many times though, that even Christian rock music is bad. What do you all think?
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Post by melinky on Mar 18, 2005 9:11:04 GMT -5
Does Christian rock music draw you closer to God? Does it make you think? Does it make you seek deeper meaning in scripture?
One of the neatest experiences I've ever had happened last summer at an all-day music event called Celebrate Freedom. It's all Christian music from dawn until about 10:00pm held at Southfork Ranch (That's where they filmed "Dallas") I've spent more hours at concerts in my life than I can count, but this was my first "Christian" event, the first I ever had any desire to attend. By the time a friend and I arrived and staked out our little piece of ground, it was around 9:00 am and the concert had already been going for about an hour. It was a cloudy morning with hints of drizzle marring the otherwise beautiful day. Not too long after we arrived, the sun managed to break through the clouds streaking pale color across the sky. At this point the show was between acts and the some of the local radio station's DJ's were talking to the crowd and we prayed. It was the first time I had ever prayed at a concert and it was moving to be there in the midst of all those people, strangers of all denominations, sharing our faith in Jesus Christ.
We didn't stay all day, we left during the gruelling heat of the day and came back for the evening festivities, but every single band that we saw shared their message about the love of Jesus Christ for all of us. There were no personal agendas, no competitions, it was all about Christ and the salvation we receive through Him.
The most amazing thing about that day is that we left late in the morning, leaving our blankets and a small area on the grass staked out for us. When we returned, around 6:00pm, it was still there. People had crowded in a bit, but no one touched our area while we were gone. That doesn't happen at a secular rock show, there, it's every man for himself!
Was it worship? It was for me. The music was moving, the people were wonderful and we were gathered in His name to sing praise to Him.
What would make one song praise and another song not, if the words or music come from the heart for the purpose of praising God? Does music have to come from a hymnal to be praise? If so, what makes those words and notes more worthy than those offered by a Christian rock band?
On the other hand, I have heard a few "Christian" songs where the singer seems to be going for a sexy, J-Lo kind of sound and quite frankly, I don't care much for that at all, but if it brings someone else closer to God, who am I to claim it isn't praise?
Melinda
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Post by Kenny on Mar 18, 2005 17:28:21 GMT -5
Christian Rock rules man! I listen to it all the time. It's like, to me, as if an elderly person listens to a hymnal. Except harder...lol Yeah, not to much to say on this, unless you want a good list of Christian rock to listen for yourself.
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Post by melinky on Mar 18, 2005 17:30:38 GMT -5
Christian Rock rules man! I listen to it all the time. It's like, to me, as if an elderly person listens to a hymnal. Except harder...lol Yeah, not to much to say on this, unless you want a good list of Christian rock to listen for yourself. Watch those elderly remarks you young whipper-snapper!!! LOL Melinda
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Post by melinky on Mar 18, 2005 17:32:18 GMT -5
I just thought of something, just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I think true worship is in the heart of the suplicant.
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Post by Alejandro on Mar 19, 2005 0:01:52 GMT -5
Melinky: So true! I heard this great quote once. "If someone has a problem with your worship, that is it: it's their problem."
Also, melinky, there is a great festival (Christians and non-Christians alike go to this one) called Cornerstone. The people are great, it is a fun time, and we get to praise the Lord! What more could you ask for?
When I have these decisions with older people they often ask for Biblical references and so on. But I cannot find any, so my position is null to them. It was like that specific and general musical instrument thread.
On a side note. What about more extreme versions of rock? Such as metal? I enjoy UnBlack Metal (often called White Metal; it is the Christian response to pagan/Satanic Black Metal which was solely created to be Anti-Christian) Some would argue that the fast-paced drum beats are bad for the health, etc. I still feel it is worshipful, and I feel blessed by it--is that evidence enough for it being an encouragement, and thus allright?
You are in Good Hands, Alejandro
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Post by melinky on Mar 19, 2005 9:10:27 GMT -5
You need to talk to the ArchDuke! That's right up his alley.
It's not my cup of tea, but if it brings you closer to God, I'm all for it.
Melinda
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Post by Alejandro on Mar 19, 2005 14:17:20 GMT -5
I found out about this website through him. I do not know him very will, if at all. I have listened to his music, too. Me likes!
I am all for getting closer to God!
Be blessed, Alejandro
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Post by Soulfyre on Mar 19, 2005 15:19:31 GMT -5
I often find that there is good music and bad music. I think much that is produced by Christian pop is simply bad music--not because of its styling, but because of such technical issues and complexity, dynamics, melodic variety, and performance. And I'm one of those elders who appreciates everything from Frank Sinatra to Frank Zappa, from bluegrass to Steve Miller's Blues band, from Mozart and Bach to Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. I think that Christian music that uses poor rock styling and lame lyrics is as bad as, well, the Partridge Family, the Cowsills, and the Monkees (sorry if I've offended anyone--not all that even they produced was bad, but...well...you know what I mean). Now there is, in fact, some music I would probably not choose to use in the the framework of a liturgical Eucharist, this doesn't mean that I reject it out of hand. My requisite is "Does this music glorify God?" And when I am in doubt, I ask not only those who are "religous" but also those who are "musically astute". In Christ, Matthew (soulfyre)
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Post by melinky on Mar 19, 2005 23:21:20 GMT -5
...as bad as, well, the Partridge Family, the Cowsills, and the Monkees Oh! How could you! The Partridge Family, Cowsills and Monkees ROCK!!! LOL, Melinda
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Post by melinky on Mar 19, 2005 23:36:41 GMT -5
I often find that there is good music and bad music. I think much that is produced by Christian pop is simply bad music--not because of its styling, but because of such technical issues and complexity, dynamics, melodic variety, and performance. Actually, I know exactly what you mean. One of the reasons I stayed away from Christian music was because I felt that much that genre was the musical equivilent of a B-Grade movie. Like Soulfyre, I like a lot of music. I listen to Christian music in the car because I like the quality of the radio program/DJs. The rest of the time I listen to music off of my computer. Right now I'm listening mostly to Opera, but like all classical music. I'm also a huge fan of Jazz. I don't listen to mainstream rock any more, but I used to before I became a geezer. But I digress... I do think there are some really great Christian artists these days and I believe that the quality of the music is improving; or maybe I'm just getting old and complacent. Melinda
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Post by Kenny on Mar 19, 2005 23:41:18 GMT -5
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